1) Material type: 6061 or 2011 whichever is most economical.
2) Material not supplied.
3) Quantity: Please quote for 400 and for 800 pc.
4) Drawing attached.
5) Required time frame: ASAP without unduly increasing cost of parts.
6) RFQ ending time: 5-15-07
7) Tolerances + or - .003

I will include my cell number when I reply to your email. I am available to discuss details anytime.

1) Material type: 6061 or 2024 whichever is most economical.
2) Material not supplied.
3) Quantity: Please quote for 400 and for 800 pc.
4) Drawing attached.
5) Required time frame: ASAP without unduly increasing cost of parts.
6) RFQ ending time: 5-15-07

I will include my cell number when I reply to your email. I am available to discuss details anytime.

hi
im kevin arndt
hanover pa
7175217585
this part looks pretty straight forward
i dont see any
tight tolerances
+or - .001
i can do easy
whats the box at the .015 x 45 degrees?
itll take a week for me to get material
i have contacts at several local shops though
i could ship 50 on monday 5/14/07
and the rest by5/28/07
i have
a sodick wire edm
cincinatti sabre cnc mill
and a falcon cnc lathe
and all the manual machines
surfcam and esprit
for programming
i can do these parts for 4.50 each
1800 for 400 pcs
3600 for 800 pcs
thanks i look forward to your reply

Hi Question boy.
If you dont mind a quote from Australia i would like to quote on this job. I have citizen sliding head machines and they are ideal for this job. please mail me at cncmedcom@binternet.com.au.
thankyou.

Hello,

We would be happy to give you a quote on this part. Material is here and ready to be cut in short delays on one of our CNC lathe.

To give you a precise quote we would need to know more on the tolerances.

Please keep us updated on it and we'll send you a quote on these parts.

Thank you and have a nice day! ;)

I have sent you a private message containing my quote.

Regards
Clint

Question boy,

I would like to quote this part also. Do you have an e-mail address where I could send it. I have material and could start right away.

Thanks,
Michael
mthomure@cableone.net

Hello,

We would be happy to give you a quote on this part. Material is here and ready to be cut in short delays on one of our CNC lathe.

To give you a precise quote we would need to know more on the tolerances.

Please keep us updated on it and we'll send you a quote on these parts.

Thank you and have a nice day! ;)

I suspect that + or - .003 on diameter and length should be easy (cheap) enough?

You're coming in a little high, but I appreciate the time.

QB

hi
im kevin arndt
hanover pa
7175217585
this part looks pretty straight forward
i dont see any
tight tolerances
+or - .001
i can do easy
whats the box at the .015 x 45 degrees?
itll take a week for me to get material
i have contacts at several local shops though
i could ship 50 on monday 5/14/07
and the rest by5/28/07
i have
a sodick wire edm
cincinatti sabre cnc mill
and a falcon cnc lathe
and all the manual machines
surfcam and esprit
for programming
i can do these parts for 4.50 each
1800 for 400 pcs
3600 for 800 pcs
thanks i look forward to your reply

I updated the RFQ to include tols, which should (I think) be easy to hit. Hello,

We would be happy to give you a quote on this part. Material is here and ready to be cut in short delays on one of our CNC lathe.

To give you a precise quote we would need to know more on the tolerances.

Please keep us updated on it and we'll send you a quote on these parts.

Thank you and have a nice day! ;)

I updated the RFQ to include tols, which should (I think) be easy to hit.


Thank you for updating with the tolerances. +/- .003 is easy to acheive on CNC machines.

Another question that most people will ask. Can we asume that the .37 exterior diameter will be from the raw stock that will be 3/8 or it needs to be machined down a bit to have a nice finish all over?

Thanks for providing more informations on your project ;)

Another question that most people will ask. Can we asume that the .37 exterior diameter will be from the raw stock that will be 3/8 or it needs to be machined down a bit to have a nice finish all over?

Thanks for providing more informations on your project ;)

Yes, the exterior should be fully machined.

Thanks,

QB

We will be sending you a quote tomorrow on this part via PM on this board.

Thank you for taking the time to anwser my questions. :)

Good afternoon. I reviewed your print and requirements. I would be able to do 400 pcs for $1450 or 800 pcs for $2800. I would be available to start this weekend (May 12th).

1) Material type: 6061 or 2011 whichever is most economical.
2) Material not supplied.
3) Quantity: Please quote for 400 and for 800 pc.
4) Drawing attached.
5) Required time frame: ASAP without unduly increasing cost of parts.
6) RFQ ending time: 5-15-07
7) Tolerances + or - .003

I will include my cell number when I reply to your email. I am available to discuss details anytime.

I have sent you a pm with my quote.
thanks,
precision machining technologies

1) Material type: 6061 or 2011 whichever is most economical.
2) Material not supplied.
3) Quantity: Please quote for 400 and for 800 pc.
4) Drawing attached.
5) Required time frame: ASAP without unduly increasing cost of parts.
6) RFQ ending time: 5-15-07
7) Tolerances + or - .003

I will include my cell number when I reply to your email. I am available to discuss details anytime.


I can run this job, just as soon as I receive a P.O.

Cost is

$2.25 each for 400
$1.90 each for 800

Material I will use use is 6061 T6

I can be reached at 904-276-6131

904-276-6132 Fax.

alpha_mach@clearwire.net

Thank you

Jeff Thompson

Alpha Machining, Inc.

Quote been submitted through PM.Thanks!

Best Regards,
C.L. LEE

Just checking out if the job was awarded?

Thanks!

I appreciate the qoutes, the job went to a shop for .785/ea for 800 pc.

QB

Wow. Are they in the states?

Wow. Are they in the states?


I was also wondering about it since most company based in America would not go that low...

Yup, right here in the US. Screw machine shop in Portland OR.

$0.785 each for 800. breaks down to this $0.30 material. So that leaves $0.485 each for 800 pcs. That is $388.00 to run the job. If screw machine is used a cam has to be made. They run $100 to $300 (I'm told) so that leaves say $288.00 to do the job 1 hour setup time, say $50.00. Now we are down to $238.00 to run 800 pcs. If each part takes lets say 3 min. run time. Now that is 13 hours and 20 minutes. Less clean up, washing, and packaging. That is running your job at $17.89 an hour.

Just a thought.

Jeff3,

I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, just letting you in on a couple of things.

The guys I spoke with said that a B&S style machine would be a pain to setup for a job like this, and the qty wouldn't warrant that approach, but a CNC screw machine would be simple.

I don't think you're getting a good price on material.

My rinky-dink 17 year old vocational CNC trainer lathe can drop that part in 1:15 (less tapping), and that includes me opening the chuck (with a key), pulling the stock to the stop, closing the chuck and hitting cycle start. And, that's running a program written by me, and I know squat about machining. I'd expect a modern swiss screw machine, programmed by someone who makes a living at this sort of thing could make the part in much less time. I don't know where you came up 3 minutes.

Anyone else has anything to add please direct it to the efficient folks at Oregon Screw Machine Products Inc.

QB

I think he means a swiss turning center. Who uses a cam operated screw cutting machine in this decade. My curiosity is piqued. How is that more efficient than regular turning CNC?

Sorry to have touched a nerve. I think it is great you got such a good price.
Yes my material was a bit high. I looked it up in one of the catalogs and added shipping. If I could bundle that amount with a few other things and order it from one of the big boys I could get it for $0.18 to $0.25 cent each.

If you look back at the other posts, you see that there is a big price difference between everyone else and the company you gave the order to.

As for the run time. It is looking at the whole job. I'm sure if I went to my machine and programmed it to do the job, I would get a better time. Not much better but still better. After running a few pieces I'm sure I could tune it even better. Your saying a 1:15 to turn the one side. Remember you have to pick it out of the machine, wipe it off, stick it back in the machine, drill it, counter bore it, tap it, then remove it. And also remember, if you don't have a bar feeder you have to saw the material. That costs you even more time.

The reason I wrote what I did was to try to be helpful. I know that at times when I loose a job from some of my regular customers, it is because someone came around and gave them at a too good of a price. It is because of a few different reason. New shop, shop needs work to keep from laying off employees, trying to win over a company hoping they will become a no bid vendor.


Jeff

Jeff,

My local supplier sells a 12 foot length of .375 6061 for $12.00. A 12' bar makes at least 100 of these parts for a material cost of ~.12 cents/ea. Add $30 for the time and gas it takes me to pick it up, and I'm still well under your cost. I don't have a bar feeder, so I have to cut them down to 2' lengths, which takes me maybe 10 minutes to do 8 bars.

I'm saying 1:15 less tapping and deburring. The part comes off the lathe needing only a quick deburring on the holes, and tapping. Both holes are drilled in the lathe, there is no counterboring. While the lathe is in process I'm knocking the burr off each end hole with a single flute 90 degree countersink mounted in the drill press, then sticking it in the H/V 5C fixture on the mill and tapping it with a tapmatic head. It's easy for me to do all the second ops while staying well ahead of the lathe. I've never worked in a machine shop so I assumed that an experienced shop would be able to beat my cost easily.

Maybe your bid would have been lower, knowing these things?

I made ten of these parts before my quote. Material cost i was given by my supplier was $0.012 per part. First opp cycle time was 1min 28sec. Second opp was 36 sec. time to write prog and and set tools was 1 hour. no deburring necessary. This was my first quote done on rfq so i went to this extent to compare prices. $0.785 is a very good quote. Maybe not for the manufacturer but for the customer. There is still a profit to be made here but its not a great deal. Anyway congrats to the machine shop who won the quote. Maybe its just the competitive atmosphere of just winning the job regardless of profit. Attatched is a pic of my parts. anyway If your parts are only suitable for the end of your fishing line then you know where to find quality.:)

I'd like to start by thanking "questionboy" for the opportunity to quote his RFQ and also for having the courtesy to notify us that the job has been awarded so that we won't be wondering what the status of it is like many posters of RFQs do in these forums "Thank you questionboy" ( We @ AMW look forward to quoting on future opportunities from you! )

NOW: I'd like to say that I agree with "cncmedcom" on everything that he said in his reply! We @ AMW came in $0.05 higher than the winning bid and we quoted off of a Swiss Lathe with a Bar Feeder, we do not have any Screw Machines, so, everyone that is wondering if the price was legit. I say it is, so get over it!:D

Once more, thank you question boy and keep posting your RFQs

Hello, Is this RFQ closed?

Here is our pricing,

$2.25 ea for 400 pcs.
$2.10 ea for 800 pcs.

Thank you for the opportunity to quote this RFQ.

Sean
R & S Machine
sormson@rsmachineco.com
www.rsmachineco.com (http://www.rsmachineco.com)

Why are you guys still trying to quote this? If you read the thread, it was awarded in May.
:confused: