Seeking RFQ - RFQ CLOSED 03/09/07

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David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Hello,

My name is David Woroner of Survival Consultants International.
I am RFQ for a product called the Wor4 TacRail.
Although I already have to product in pat. pending status,
If you are interested in supplying a qoute, I require a NDA first.

You may go to www.survivalconsultants.com/tacrail.htm
to view the piece. There is (I believe its different) on the main page.

I have already had SLA done, all schematics in PDF and have slddraw and sldasd files. As soon as I get the NDA @ survival_consultants@yahoo.com
I will forward the PDF's to you. Thank you for your time, have a good one!
David

Feel free to write for a NDA or use this:
You must fill in your companies name, your name, title, location/ then type in your name, and do this: (ie) Joe Smith< via digital signature

NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT
In reference to a “TacRail” an accessory for a pistol.
THIS AGREEMENT (the “Agreement”) is made between ______________________ with offices in ________________, and David Woroner/Survival Consultants Int’l LLC. with offices in Palm Beach Florida that entered into this Agreement.

NOW THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual promises and covenants contained in this Agreement, the mutual disclosure of confidential information to each other, each undersigned party (the “Receiving Party”) and the other party (the “Disclosing Party”) agree as follows:

1. Confidential Information and Confidential Materials

“Confidential Information” means nonpublic information that Disclosing Party designates as being confidential or which, under the circumstances surrounding disclosure ought to be treated as confidential. “Confidential Information” includes, without limitation, information relating to released or unreleased Disclosing Party software or hardware products, the marketing or promotion of any Disclosing Party product, Disclosing Party’s business policies or practices, and information received from others that Disclosing Party is obligated to treat as confidential. Confidential Information disclosed to Receiving Party by any Disclosing Party Subsidiary and/or agents is covered by this Agreement.

“Confidential Information” shall mean all tangible materials containing Confidential Information, including without limitation written or printed documents and computer disks or tapes, whether machine or user readable, and know-how acquired as a result of contractual relationships.

“Confidential Information” includes commercial secrets, personal secrets, artistic secrets and state secrets. The terms confidential information and trade secrets are often used interchangeably but strictly speaking, trade secrets are a subset of confidential information in the context of business, commerce or trade. Examples of trade secrets can include manufacturing processes, recipes, engineering and technical designs and drawings, product specifications, customer lists, business strategies and sales and marketing information.

“Confidential Information” includes technical information; methods; processes; formulae; compositions; inventions; machines; computer programs; research projects and business information as well such as customer lists; pricing data; sources of supply; and marketing, production, or merchandising systems or plans.








2. Non-Disclosure & Nonuse



Receiving Party shall take reasonable security precautions, at least as great as the precautions it takes to protect its own confidential information, to keep confidential the Confidential Information. Receiving Party may disclose Confidential Information or Confidential Material only to Receiving Party’s employees or consultants on a need-to-know basis during execution of the project(s). Receiving Party will have executed or shall execute appropriate written agreements with its employees and consultants sufficient to enable it to comply with all the provisions of this Agreement.

Confidential Information and Confidential Materials may be disclosed, reproduced, summarized or distributed only in pursuance of Receiving Party’s business relationship with Disclosing Party, and only as otherwise provided hereunder. Receiving Party agrees to segregate all such Confidential Materials from the confidential materials of others in order to prevent commingling.


Such a disclosure as described in this clause 5 shall not be considered to be a breach of this Agreement or a waiver of confidentiality for other purposes; provided, however, that Receiving Party shall provide prompt written notice thereof to enable Disclosing Party to seek a protective order or otherwise prevent such disclosure.

3. Ownership of Confidential Information

All Confidential Information and Confidential Materials are and shall remain the property of Disclosing Party. By disclosing information to Receiving Party, Disclosing Party does not grant any express or implied right to Receiving Party to or under Disclosing Party patents, copyrights, trademarks, or trade secret information.


4. Miscellaneous

The terms of confidentiality under this Agreement shall not be construed to limit either party’s right to independently develop or acquire products without use of the other party’s Confidential Information. Further, either party shall be free to use for any purpose the residuals resulting from access to or work with such Confidential Information, provided that such party shall maintain the confidentiality of the Confidential Information as provided herein. The term “residuals” means information in non-tangible form, which may be retained by persons who have had access to the Confidential Information, including ideas, concepts, know-how or techniques contained therein. Neither party shall have any obligation to limit or restrict the assignment of such persons or to pay royalties for any work resulting from the use of residuals. However, the foregoing shall not be deemed to grant to either party a license under the other party’s copyrights or patents. Receiving party cannot benefit from use of Confidential Information directly or indirectly in any form, without explicit written permission of Disclosing Party.

5. Entire Agreement

This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between the parties with respect to the subject matter hereof. It shall not be modified except by a written agreement dated subsequent to the date of this Agreement and signed by both parties. None of the provisions of this Agreement shall be deemed to have been waived by any act or acquiescence on the part of Disclosing Party, its agents, or employees, but only by an instrument in writing signed by an authorized officer of Disclosing Party. No waiver of any provision of this Agreement shall constitute a waiver of any other provision(s) or of the same provision on another occasion.

6. Attorney Fees
If either party employs attorneys to enforce any rights arising out of or relating to this Agreement, the prevailing party shall be entitled to recover reasonable attorneys’ fees.

7. Choice of Law

This Agreement shall be construed and controlled by the laws of State of Florida (USA). Process may be served on either party by mail, postage prepaid, certified or registered, return receipt requested, or by such other traceable method as authorized by law.

Subject to the limitations set forth in this Agreement, this Agreement will inure to the benefit of and be binding upon the parties, their successors and assigns.

8. Severability and Survival of Rights & Obligations

If any provision of this Agreement shall be held by a court of competent jurisdiction to be illegal, invalid or unenforceable, the remaining provisions shall remain in full force and effect.

All obligations created by this Agreement shall survive change or termination of the parties’ business relationship.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have executed this Agreement.





Signature____________________________

Date ________________________
 

Ken_Shea

New Member
Hello David,
A few pre-quote consideration questions ;
1) What are your initial quantity needs?
2) Time frame?
3) Do you have the more common solids / surfaces cad file formats such as .stp - .igs - .sldprt - .3dm and my favorite .xfa :) etc ?
4) How many individual components make up this part ?
5) Any finish requirements that the machinist will need to consider?
6: Presuming aluminum such as 6061 ?


Thanks
Ken
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Thanks Ken, First time here, so Im a bit unfamiliar. Thanks and I will try to answer best I can.
I'm look for between
1) 50-100-150-250 pieces to start, breakdowns.
2) Well you know us, yesterday would be good, only you can judge that.
3) On the common solids, I will have to discuss this in more depth on Monday
with the original company. I would imagine if I paid 5 K for the schematics, and they have been made for e draw, Im sure they have them in solidworks? I don't know if thats a correct answer, but I will find out.
4) between 10-14 depending on how you choose to see it.
5) Techniques will be cnc, dip braze and finally hard coat anodize.
6) I was originally told 7071, but on the schems they all say 6061

Thanks again Ken, and I will certainly acquire those solid files as I've paid for them and they make a big difference in time and energy on a machinists part (thats just my impression.) But obviously, Im entitled to the solidworks files.
Thanks, David
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Ken I have slddraw and sldasm........sorry, had to take a second and go through the files. Best, David
 

Ken_Shea

New Member
David,
It would be only a simple matter of exporting them in the suggested formats, The two you mention are SW Inventor ?
Not everyone can import that.
I could not believe they would give you any grief over that.
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
ref file format/Edraw/PDF's

Hi Ken,

The file format is an Edraw extension.
It was listed in your post as an extension that would be good for you.
I believe EDraw is a Solid file extension.

Best, David
 

Ken_Shea

New Member
David,
I can view them but that is all, they are not in a format that any CNC machining can be done from. There is nothing like viewing models in a CAD program that one is familliar with :)
.sldprt is a different format at least to import into my software..

Thanks
Ken
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Will acquire file types...

Hello All,
Im not well enough versed to know whether these files (currently being sent in pdf and edraw) are useable for creation or not.

If I've paid 5K for blueprints, should I be getting the output files in these other formats? Is .easm a useable format?

Im really not nearly as well versed as you folks, this isn't my profession... :)
Thanks for your replies!

Best, and again a big thanks! David

"Quality isnt polished on, it comes from the inside and shines its way through"
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Regarding File Types...

Hi Folks,
Getting a few people taking a look, its much appreciated.

And believe it or not, everyone is sending NDA's! Yeah!

In all seriousness, I will acquire what it would appear is
rightfully mine based on the price and the fact that Ken
(if Im reading his message correctly) said that if they can
out put Edraw and PDF's its just a matter of saving them
in "machine language"--CAD, etc. (Basically something you
folks can use to view and punch into your machines.)

So that will be squared away. I suppose the smartest way
to go about that however, is to see who is truly interested,
vs. people just looking........
So, I suppose the way to do this, and Im all ears for ideas,
questions, suggestions, etc... Is to wait for folks to turn in
their initial qoute and based on that I can send the true
machine files?

Again, I want to thank you guys for looking and taking a shot
at my RFQ, I do have the money So your not
wasting your time.


Best, David Woroner, Pres. SCI
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
File types are secured, from Dave

Hi all, I have all of the actual build files in SLDPRT

I realize its not a simple piece to build. There are mods I'm gonna
be looking to make on them, but I'd like to get the first ones out
before I start messing around changing anything.

I am assuming that for those of you who got the files agree, if I want
it assembled (yes). The processes would be cnc, dip braze and then
hard anodize.

Best, David
 

eric zha

New Member
Dear Sir,
Good day!
Thanks for reading this letter. We are one of specialized machinery products manufacturers in China. We can design and manufacture the machinery parts including milling, lathe, wire-cut, EDM process, and we can supply them with high quality and competitive pricing. We enjoy very convenient transportation in air, sea and land locating in Hangzhou, a well-known garden city in China.
It plays a prominent role in machining process, producing technology and inspection method in China.
With advanced facilities from US and Japan such as CNC machining centers, NC lathes and combined lathes, we are experienced in processing all kinds of machine parts. We can meet the critical requirements of shape and position tolerance for machined parts from the international market.
If you are interested in these, please send us the inquiry, we will quote you very soon and send you samples in short time if there have ready-made mould in our workshop.
And also you can contact me via MSN Messenger (ericzha@hotmail.com). Please kindly add me to your contacts. List some engineering samples for your reference.

Thanks and Best regards,
Eric Zha
Senior Project Engineer
Ace Machinery Products, Inc.
Tel: + 86 571 8289 3970
Fax: + 86 571 8289 3971
Add: Room 906, Building 1, Lvdu Bai Rui Square, Xiaoshan economical technique development zone, Hangzhou, Zhejiang , China
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Ref: Outsourced work to China.......

Dear Sir,

Since this piece is intended for use (possibly) with the US Military.
Also, it also goes against the policy of SCI on several levels, SCI will
not be able to work with a non American allied country
at this time. No reflection upon yourself or your country.

Thank you for your posting and email, much appreciated.

Sincerely, David Woroner, SCI
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Best qoute, read: impt!!!! D.W.

Hello All,

I know that several of you have requested the blueprints and edraw for the TacRail.
There are still a number of outstanding qoutes to be delivered.

my purpose in writing today (March 5) is that the best qoute to date is as follows: 50 units X $150 (7500 USD) [or] 100 units @ 135 (13500 USD)

I would like to close bidding by the end of this week. Please forward your qoute asap. If you know you can't get to the price listed above, will you simply email me and let me know you no longer wish to qoute.

Thanks so much for your time folks, you've been quite professional and polite.
(not something you find on the web much!) I will be recommending some of the builders here as well as rfqwork to some other folks I know.

To Be Clear: Qoutes req'd reciept, end of this week 3/9/07

Best, David Woroner :)
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Hello All,

I have not selected whom I will use, however its nearing game time, and I got an "itchy trigger finger" (ie-no patience :) Im going to close bidding (other than those folks Im speaking to tommorow.)
So get those qoutes in. However if they are more than 150 USD, they should come in titanium, gold, etc...........:) lol

Thank you all, all of you for making me feel welcome!! Best, David
 

David W

Survival Consultants Int.
Ending of Bids/Qoutes, DW/ SCI

I'd like to thank everyone who took their valuable time to qoute me on my product.
I promised to wait until today to close it out.
The winning qoute goes to JP Machining out of Wisc.
I look forward to a long and prosperous endeavor with
Jeff Peaslee!

Sincerely, David Woroner, Pres.
Survival Consultants International, llc.
www.survivalconsultants.com/tacrail.htm
 
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